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ObjectDock Plus 2 - 1.99 beta
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-Added Explorer-view "Folder" tabs for use on tabbed docks! (Windows 7 only)
-Added new default layout items based on what's pinned to your taskbar (Windows 7) or in QuickLaunch (Vista/XP)
-Added changing the running-program indicator from within the new Settings dialog
-Added ability to adjust the edge-offset of the running indicator
-Added new "Choose Icon" dialog (Windows 7 or .NET 3.5 updated Vista only)
-LNKs dropped a dock now have their custom icons recognized
-Brought back "Quit" menu item
-Improvements to tabbed dock resizing ability (where you can grab it to resize)
-Improvements to weather-docklet accuracy. Fixed issue where it could get stuck with cached results.
-Running-indicator graphic and its edge-offset is now specifiable in skins (a couple examples given)
-.NET assemblies now pre-compiled on install and verified on each OD.exe run, to ensure the settings
dialog and aero peek windows come up as quickly as possible
-Fixed issue where activating Skype from the system tray would cause Skype to hang
-Fixed issue where changing a dock's size while the Bubble effect is enabled could cause a freeze
-Tweaked draggable-tabs (use right mouse button to rearrange)
-Autohiding zooming-docks not functioning ideally on multiple monitors is a problem that will not ever be fixed.
This problem exists in the free version as well and is fully discoverable in that regard. Due to the way in which
the program's visuals are designed, it is simply not possible to fix the problem in a way that would also be
acceptable from a performance standpoint.


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on Sep 23, 2010

-Autohiding zooming-docks not functioning ideally on multiple monitors is a problem that will not ever be fixed.

This problem exists in the free version as well and is fully discoverable in that regard. Due to the way in which

the program's visuals are designed, it is simply not possible to fix the problem in a way that would also be

acceptable from a performance standpoint.

Are you talking about the docks "hiding" on the shared edge by sliding between the monitors and remaining visible?  Just not quite sure what you're referring to here.  Thanks.

on Sep 23, 2010

Hi Dave. Yes that is what is being referred to. Unfortunately a fix is just not possible

on Sep 23, 2010

Vista32:

- some Microsoft programs - flip3d, synctoy - don't remember their chosen icon. Clearing the 'Point to target not link' checkbox fixes this.

- icon list for added folder in 'Change Icon' is no longer ordered alphabetically and must be manually selected each time (by clicking on the 'name' header)

- changing icon a few times produced crash

OD Crash

on Sep 23, 2010

I'm getting this when trying to update...

Decompression error. Access to the path 'C\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Stardock\Impulse\Temporary\ExtractedFiles\objectdockplus2\Base\Backgrounds\Tabs\BlackOps\Thumb.db' is denied.

on Sep 24, 2010

I'm getting this when trying to update...

Decompression error. Access to the path 'C\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Stardock\Impulse\Temporary\ExtractedFiles\objectdockplus2\Base\Backgrounds\Tabs\BlackOps\Thumb.db' is denied.

The issue is with long path & file names. The decompression process breaks if the temporary files path becomes longer than Windows allows for (usually on XP Systems).

To work around this, do the following:

- Open Impulse
- Click the blue menu button (upper left) and select "Preferences..."
- Go to the Folders section, and press the "Change..." button under "Temporary Files Location".
- Select or Create a folder right under the Root directory of one of your hard drives.
- Close all the dialog boxes and restart Impulse

Then the download should work.


on Sep 24, 2010

I get this when trying to change the icon via the properties.

 

on Sep 24, 2010

Eek. Issues with the new Choose Icon dlg seem to be the #1 problem coming down thus far. Will be having to do some research on what could make browsing fail...

on Sep 24, 2010

+1. Cannot change any icons. Please bring the old dialog back, it was perfect.

on Sep 24, 2010

Fixes made to new dialog, we'll be doing an update on Monday. Perhaps once it's working properly we'll get a little better feedback on it.

on Sep 24, 2010

The issue is with long path & file names. The decompression process breaks if the temporary files path becomes longer than Windows allows for (usually on XP Systems).

To work around this, do the following:

- Open Impulse
- Click the blue menu button (upper left) and select "Preferences..."
- Go to the Folders section, and press the "Change..." button under "Temporary Files Location".
- Select or Create a folder right under the Root directory of one of your hard drives.
- Close all the dialog boxes and restart Impulse

Then the download should work.

Thanks Dewie! I forgot to edit this post last night. After posting I went and tried again and it worked fine. All I did was cancel the download/install and started over and it worked.

on Sep 25, 2010

In the config screen, on the "Set Up Your Docks" tab, My tabbed docks no longer appear! i can only change my settings for my zoomer!

on Sep 26, 2010

the tabbed dock doesn't show in the settings?? oh gez, that is odd. screenshot please? / send your settings file to support (& tell them to pass along to jeff)? Win7?

on Sep 26, 2010

mystifeid
Vista32:

- some Microsoft programs - flip3d, synctoy - don't remember their chosen icon. Clearing the 'Point to target not link' checkbox fixes this.

- icon list for added folder in 'Change Icon' is no longer ordered alphabetically and must be manually selected each time (by clicking on the 'name' header)

- changing icon a few times produced crash

 

Ditto!

At first I thought it was me because I had a symbolic link between were my dock icons are and were the Object Dock Icon library are.  I thought I had created a circular indexing reference.  I broke the link and then let windows reindex the whole PC.

 

I'm not flaming on anybody in particular but myself coming from the IT field want to know, didn't anybody test this before putting it out?

OS : Vista 64-bit SP3

Hope it gets resolved soon .. my dock looks like doodoo! ((((((

on Sep 26, 2010

operating system: windows 7 - 64 bit

• i have noticed several occasions where clicking on something in the dock will no longer allow me proper control of windows afterwords until another action is performed [such as i've been hitting the start menu button on my keyboard].  for example, while checking whether the bugs i've already listed before were still present in this version before writing them down, i've lost the ability to type in this window until pressing the start button.  in itunes, i've basically lost all functionality until pressing start.

• the start menu, when accessed by the start menu docklet, still does not display correctly on the right-hand side though it works perfectly when brought up by normal means or shortcuts [such as using the keyboard to call it].  simply adding a docklet that calls the start menu up normally rather than making it hover near where the icon is positioned in your dock would seem an acceptable compromise.  since the docklets are generally bundled with object dock from the wincustomize library rather than created by stardock, it might be time to stop relying on the docklets made by other people and add the functionality in yourselves.

• the new change icon dialogue for tabbed docks is simply horrible, but it seems extra ridiculous that there are 2 different dialogues for changing an icon within the same program.  this could be a tolerable change though in the end, as long as you quit changing what folder we are supposed to store these icons in.  at least, that is if we don't want to induce headaches each time we change or add one.  we used to be storing them in the program folder, then it wanted to default it to my documents, now we're back to the program folder?

it seems reasonable to say/request...

C:\Users\username\Documents\Stardock\ObjectDock Library\Images

or

C:\Program Files\Stardock\ObjectDockPlus2

pick one!

• tabbed dock icons still "zoom/grow" by having duplicate icon images on top of itself; leading to ugly effects and becoming noticeable with certain shapes and all transparencies.  other mouseover options would be ideal as well, especially an instant skin specific indicator/arrow type graphic, similar to a running indicator.  we should at least have the zoomer dock options such as rock and glow though.

• it's fine and dandy to have aero peek on running shortcuts [that would show a running indicator], but why is aero peek not shown on running tasks [when the dock is set to display running tasks]?

• there's no clear way to disable the terribly slow minimize/maximize [to dock] animations or disable thumbnails. 

to stop the slow window animation we have to click in troubleshooting [of all things] "temporarily disable all use of thumbnails on windows vista".  what do these two things have to do with each other?  telling it to stop vista thumbnails stops the animation sluggishness, but it doesn't stop "thumbnails"...

to stop the thumbnails, we need to check [in troubleshooting again...] "temporarily disable all special window-event hooking.  yoda is infinitely easier to understand than this.

why is there an option to make the already slow animation even more unbearably slower when shift is held instead of an option to make it not be slow at all, and without having to hold down extra keys every time you click?  not to mention that regardless of whether i check that box or not, holding shift always only makes it animate even slower.

• some running programs do not respond well to right clicking on their icon to edit. 

- trying to change photoshop for example led to the alert that "ObjectDock cannot access information about this window.  It is likely that it has been ran as Administrator while ObjectDock has not.", in the last version it would tend to just crash on certain programs though.

right clicking the icon a second time yields the...

dock options >
dock icon properties...

being shown twice.

i've not seen photoshop cause a lockup or crash in this version yet, but that was the case last time.

- as another example, yahoo messenger when right clicked will call up a contextual menu but all the text aside from "dock options >" will not be visible.

• flyout menus- as a list can still take ages, and when displayed as flyout items can often crash OD entirely, even before reaching an excessive amount of items to display. 

• i still see no way to change the clock hands; a bother because they are very low quality image files and pixelate badly at larger sizes.  a 256x256 quality version would take care of that, but being able to skin the hands as well would be ideal.

• in tabbed docks, the +/- buttons look out of place/off-centered on many skins due to not being able to have reflections like the other icons they sit beside.

• tabbed docks are still utterly useless for users like me because of faulty and limited accessibility.  the fact that tabbed docks are the only separation between free and plus, but that even on the 3rd version of what is being called "beta"... we still can't use hotspots, we still don't have any implemented ability to set up a hotkey, and even the "show in taskbar" option doesn't actually work in objectdock's taskbar, making absolutely every floating dock utterly worthless.  it makes me question, at what point is the money that i've paid for this app going to yield worthwhile and usable results.

• when dragging an icon from a zooming dock to a tabbed dock; the reflection from when it was in the zoomer does not disappear and will remain at whatever edge [bottom for me] it was originally at.

• still limited in displaying running tasks or displaying the contents of the tray, but not being able to show both in one dock.  it's no fun playing whack-a-mole with docks because you're forced to have more than one just to have all your items actually be accessible.

• i still have delays in a zooming dock showing up when accessibility is set to normal time to time, or requiring that i bounce my cursor on that part of the screen several times to get a reaction; it does seem less frequent this time though.

• for some instances, such as with photoshop, clicking an application in the running tasks that is minimized will either restore or maximize the program, but clicking on it when the program is maximized will not minimize it [it will minimize if it is not maximized though].

• reflections and thumbnails in zooming docks jitter up and down by a pixel or two as you scroll through them, not matching up with the smoothness in animation that the icons have.

• we still need the sublevel separation feature which isn't present in this beta, or the last few versions of OD at all despite being an original and heavily relied upon feature when OD came out.  this still leads us to not being able to tell which icon is our messenger contact list and which icons are the conversation windows without playing more whack-a-mole guessing games.

• text in tabbed docks is still lacking, especially where skinning is concerned.  while not really a "problem", it would still be nice to be able to tell the text to display differently when it's active and when it's inactive.  even with the user being able to change font or color, it is reliant upon a tab "button" to indicate which tab is active.

• allow us to set what the defaults are so we can safely remove skins we do not want sitting around.  right clicking on a skin and setting it as a default would be acceptable, as would it just using whatever skins are available; having an invisible dock when you create a new one is the bother.

• tabbed docks lack the transparency features enjoyed on zooming docks.

• we need a "stacks docklet" equiv.  even for those who like the flyouts, they're useless and require you to wait ages for it to cycle to the one you want if you have more than 5 or 6 items in one.

• changing the running indicators again is a step in the right direction, now how about changing flyout arrows in the same manner rather than having to overwrite files?

• tabbed docks suffer from lack of alignment options.  instead of forced left at all times, align right and align center seems a good compromise since tabbed docks would be difficult to make stretch like zoomers.

• a lot of programs are doing as i mentioned with photoshop when trying to change the icons; despite any privileges you give to OD, it simply will not allow you to change the icon.  it's especially annoying now that system icons [such as folders] for explorer.exe show up in the dock as low res icons even when you tell OD to use high quality versions.

• object dock fails to change the icons for all applications of open office.  the dialogue opens, but after picking your icon and hitting "ok", nothing changes.  the same goes for any other method of trying to change them.

• by far my worst instance at the time being is that if i load object dock i cannot close explorer windows with the X button.  i have to unload object dock and close from the windows taskbar.

:: :: :: ::

problems from the last version that i haven't seen/haven't been able to reproduce in this version, but am uncertain are "resolved"...

• i've yet to notice any flickering in the dock or outside of the dock with this version, but it was never a constant occurrence for me in the past.

• in the last version... when changing an icon i repeatedly had a yellow balloon pop up and say "try out the search feature".  nice the first time, but it was in the way of the scrollbar and icons the next 50.  still trying to get used to having 2 different dialogues for changing icons, but i haven't seen it in either so far.

• i've not yet had picture viewer or any other program load behind the other windows.  here's to hoping that remains the case.

• in tabbed docks, the text displayed when hovering over an icon would sometimes remain displayed even when the mouse has been withdrawn from that item.  it also tended to display behind the dock or behind an application.

:: :: :: ::

in the end the only good thing i can say is that, at least it has been very handy to be able to close object dock quickly again, since that's about all i want to do with it currently. 

=[

on Sep 27, 2010

JMBdev
the tabbed dock doesn't show in the settings?? oh gez, that is odd. screenshot please? / send your settings file to support (& tell them to pass along to jeff)? Win7?

Ok, I feel dumb. I had updated OD and hadn't restarted my machine. After a restart, all is well.

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